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派克51和英雄100

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21#
发表于 2007-11-16 11:04 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pb0220</i>在2007-11-16 10:57:07的发言:</b><br/>我有好几支英雄100,半金、全镀金、半钢、全钢的都有,派克51有三支,其中一支双珠,分别购自汽水和long37,感觉好的100的<font size="6">书写性</font>是绝对不输51的。</div><p></p>[em07]
22#
发表于 2007-11-16 11:15 | 只看该作者
冒昧的问一句,不知楼上的用过派克51和优秀的英雄100吗?私以为全钢100是英雄100的顶级设计之作,如果一根好的全钢100我觉得真的是不输于派克51的。至于02年的51复刻版本我也有一支,感觉我这根的塑料做工和有些笔友痛骂的英雄100真是一时瑜亮!现在它已经回到派克厂里大修去了。要说老51的塑料水平就确实要竖大拇指了,我的一根双珠从1.2米的写字台上翻滚而下居然一点事没有,当时就让我联想起派克那个夸张的广告。
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-16 11:22:16编辑过]

23#
发表于 2007-11-16 11:41 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pb0220</i>在2007-11-16 11:15:07的发言:</b><br/>冒昧的问一句,<font color="#ff0066">不知楼上的用过派克51和优秀的英雄100吗?</font>私以为全钢100是英雄100的顶级设计之作,如果一根好的全钢100我觉得真的是不输于派克51的。至于02年的51复刻版本我也有一支,感觉我这根的塑料做工和有些笔友痛骂的英雄100真是一时瑜亮!现在它已经回到派克厂里大修去了。<font color="#ff0066">要说老51的塑料水平就确实要竖大拇指了</font>,我的一根双珠从1.2米的写字台上翻滚而下居然一点事没有,当时就让我联想起派克那个夸张的广告。<br/></div><p>兄把问题的答案当作问题了。</p>[em07]<br/>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-16 11:50:44编辑过]

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24#
发表于 2007-11-16 12:04 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pb0220</i>在2007-11-16 11:58:23的发言:</b><br/>51的塑料再硬也应该硬不过全钢100的金属,好的100塑料还是可以的,至少我从没有漏墨的发生,在下用东西是挺费的,100一直用于大学时写论文和现在一些有点文字量的工作文书,洋人对于paker51和hero100早有详尽的比较,好像有个洋人的评论家说他在老的51和新100之间会毫不犹豫的选择后者。<br/></div><p></p><p>pb兄能否转帖"洋人对于paker51和hero100早有详尽的比较"</p><p>谢谢!</p>
25#
发表于 2007-11-16 12:11 | 只看该作者
<p><a href="http://www.pentrace.net/penbase/Data_Returns/full_article.asp?id=423&amp;tname=Pen+Doctor">http://www.pentrace.net/penbase/Data_Returns/full_article.asp?id=423&amp;tname=Pen+Doctor</a>各位請自便。</p><p>这是英文的,有个中文翻译:<a href="http://bbs.tomrun.net/showtopic.aspx?forumid=28&amp;topicid=1460&amp;go=next">http://bbs.tomrun.net/showtopic.aspx?forumid=28&amp;topicid=1460&amp;go=next</a>。</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-16 12:29:26编辑过]

26#
发表于 2007-11-16 12:16 | 只看该作者
<p>不要忽略了,全钢也并非全部都是钢,握笔处还是塑料的。</p><p>好的100的确靠谱。</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-16 12:22:30编辑过]

27#
发表于 2007-11-16 12:25 | 只看该作者
<p>可能我的100碰巧质量好吧!哈哈!我觉得51最可贵的就是它用料的厚实。那包金的笔帽真漂亮啊!</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-16 12:25:49编辑过]

28#
发表于 2007-11-16 12:41 | 只看该作者
<p>我啥都不说了,我的两只Hero100笔都是笔握开裂(轻率了下),亲身体验,心都凉了</p>
29#
发表于 2007-11-16 13:07 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>t39mc</i>在2007-11-16 12:57:28的发言:</b><br/>100的笔套镀铬和磨砂以及笔尖都是51比不上的。</div><p></p>碰到好的100,笔尖确实能和51有的一比。但别的部分就……[em06]
30#
发表于 2007-11-16 11:58 | 只看该作者
51的塑料再硬也应该硬不过全钢100的金属,好的100塑料还是可以的,至少我从没有漏墨的发生,在下用东西是挺费的,100一直用于大学时写论文和现在一些有点文字量的工作文书,洋人对于paker51和hero100早有详尽的比较,好像有个洋人的评论家说他在老的51和新100之间会毫不犹豫的选择后者。所以我觉得单拿出有当年水平的全钢100还是可以和51一拼的。
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-16 12:06:06编辑过]

31#
发表于 2007-11-16 13:37 | 只看该作者
单就笔尖来说,英雄100的笔尖是我用过的最好的,但英雄100有个致命的问题,就是当书写量超过百字时,出墨会逐渐减少,墨迹会变得很淡,不过始终不会断墨。手上的几支正品100都是这样。为了解决这个问题,我将其中一支的笔尖暴力拆下,装在616上,这样就很完美了。
32#
发表于 2007-11-16 14:53 | 只看该作者
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">枝</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">100 </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">当然有可能比</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">枝</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                        <span lang="EN-US">51 </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">好写</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">枝</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                        <span lang="EN-US">51 </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">也可能比</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">枝</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">100 </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">好写</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">但要</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1,000</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">枝</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">100 </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">也比</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">1,000</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">枝</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                        <span lang="EN-US">51 </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">好写</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">, </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">今天看来可能性不大</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW;"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">但请记得我们是用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"> 2007</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">年生产的</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">100</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">跟</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">1947</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"> (60</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">年前</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">) </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">生产的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"> 51</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">比较</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">...... </span>[em06]</p>
33#
发表于 2007-11-16 15:06 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>t39mc</i>在2007-11-16 12:57:28的发言:</b><br/>100的笔套镀铬和磨砂以及笔尖都是51比不上的。</div><p>100的笔套镀铬和磨砂是不是比 51 好要&nbsp;60 年後再說. [em07]</p>
34#
发表于 2007-11-16 17:51 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>benben</i>在2007-11-16 16:26:19的发言:</b><br/>整个一个抄袭产品,还嚷嚷着和60年前的老货比, 比赢了又怎样?</div><p>不好这么说呀,英雄100很有意义的,莫非它是今天才发明的吗?翻翻中国的近现代史,不容易的,而且不要小瞧抄袭,只要做得好,一样是传世之作。况且100还是有独到的,洋人的行家也是认可的。</p>
35#
发表于 2007-11-16 17:54 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pb0220</i>在2007-11-16 17:51:07的发言:</b><br/><p>不好这么说呀,英雄100很有意义的,莫非它是今天才发明的吗?翻翻中国的近现代史,不容易的,而且不要小瞧抄袭,只要做得好,一样是传世之作。况且100还是有独到的,洋人的行家也是认可的。</p></div><p></p><p>我的确不知道 100对比派克51有何独到之处, 请不吝赐教吧</p><p>其实51既然是革命性的笔款, 当然也导致有些其他品牌的笔象其模仿,&nbsp; 百利金有,AURORA也有, 但是人家至少没有全面照抄,</p><p>英雄100给我的感觉就是全面照抄, 连笔夹也是, 如果有何改进, 请告诉我吧.</p>
36#
发表于 2007-11-16 17:58 | 只看该作者
<span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">If you know me, you know that I am firmly entrenched in the “vintage” camp. I don’t buy modern pens, and while I admire many of them I really don’t have any desire to own them. That has all changed. The Hero [/url][url=]100[/url] is the modern pen I had been waiting to fall in love with. I’d almost say it’s a vintage “<chmetcnv wst="on" tcsc="0" numbertype="1" negative="False" hasspace="False" sourcevalue="51" unitname="”">51”</chmetcnv> in modern dress. And that’s something!<span style="DISPLAY: none; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><br/></span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">如果你知道我,你会知道我是坚定地站在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">[url=]</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">经典老笔</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">[/url]</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">这边的。我不买现代笔,虽然我很欣赏其中的许多,但我没有任何念头要拥有它们。但这种情况已经变了。英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100<span style="DISPLAY: none; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><br/><span style="DISPLAY: none; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><br/></span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">是我一直在期待投入热恋的现代笔。我几乎可以说它是一支有现代外表的古董笔。这确实让人惊讶。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/>The Hero 100 is selling in the USA for $55.00, and at that price it’s one of the best bargains since Pepsi gave you 12 full ounces for only a nickel</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">在美国卖</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">55</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">美元,这个价格简直是自从百事可乐推出</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">5</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">分卖</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">12</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">盎司饮料以来最好的便宜买卖之一。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/><span style="DISPLAY: none; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">Richard Binder</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">是全球知名的和派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">51</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">专家,他老人家见过的和派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">51</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">恐怕比我们论坛上所有人见过的总和都要多。他又是欧美顶尖的笔尖专家,他对钢笔的欣赏能力是值得信赖的。这里是他对英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的评论:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/>FWIW, the Hero 100 is one of only three truly aerometric pens ever made; the other two are the Parker "51" Mark I and the Parker "51" Mark II. Other pens with squeeze fillers are not really aerometric; and no converter ever made is aerometric, either.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">不管好坏,英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">是有史以来三支真正采用解剖式打水的钢笔之一。其他两支是派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">51 Mark I </span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">和派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"> 51 Mark II</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">。其他钢笔使用的挤压方式打水并不是真正的解剖式打水,并且所有吸墨器没有一个是解剖式打水的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/>I have three Hero 100s, and I like them. The design internally resembles that of the Parker 61, not the "51", and the nib is 14K. I don't think the 100 is cheaply made; in fact, in some ways such as the metal threads for the barrel, it's better than a "51". The way it's held together is a little different, quite innovative in fact; it's very positive, and the 100's sac guard can't work loose the way the sac guard in a "51" can (unless it's one of the very early threaded ones). The sac guard in a 100 is thinner than that in a Mark I "51" but it's not flimsy -- for that you need to look at a Hero 329! smile.gifFor me, the choice between a Hero 100 and a Parker Frontier would be a no-brainer.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><br/></span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">我有三支英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">,我喜欢它们。英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的内部设计和派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">61</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">相似,而不是派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">51</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">。它的笔尖是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">14K</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的金尖。我不认为它的做工是低劣的。事实上在某些方面,如笔套上的金属螺纹,它比派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">51</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">更好。它的组装方式有点不同,实际上这种方式非常有创意。我对它的印象是非常正面的。英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的墨囊档板并不像</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">51</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">那样能松开地工作(除非它是早期有螺纹的一种)。它的墨囊档板比</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">Mark I </span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">的要来得薄,但并非是英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">329</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">上差劲的那种。对我而言在英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">100</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">和派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"> 51</span><span style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">中做选择是不用脑子也能做出的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-hide: all;">—&Ccedil;ŠJ&AElig;JB·&sup2;|bbs.tomrun.net“&Oacute;/×&amp;Z</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"></p></span>
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37#
发表于 2007-11-16 23:01 | 只看该作者
书写以外的东西 100就没法比了
38#
发表于 2007-11-16 23:59 | 只看该作者
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>瀑布</i>在2007-11-16 19:55:24的发言:</b><br/><p>钢笔以外的东西是?</p></div><p>书写以外,不是钢笔以外。。。</p><p>书写以外的就多了,上面很多笔友都说了</p>
39#
发表于 2007-11-16 19:40 | 只看该作者
<p>光说笔尖,100不比51差。</p><p>既然100块钱的东西经常被人用来和10倍20倍价格于它的笔相比较,它就是成功和有性价比的。</p><p>如果用英雄100和价格相仿的派克云峰来比较,会选择谁?</p><p>一个非钢笔发烧友,在100元的100和数千元的51间,毫无疑问会选择100,那么,作为纯粹的书写工具而言,100不比51差。钢笔爱好者注重很多书写以外的东西,所以也会有很多人选择51,没什么好争的。</p>
40#
发表于 2007-11-16 19:55 | 只看该作者
<p>钢笔以外的东西是?</p>

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