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发表于 2019-2-9 10:22 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式




Nibs with E|N and PF stamps or punches


On some nibs, there are punches, which have partly led to wild speculations and myths.
The punches E|N and PF were partly embossed on the non-visible part of the nib, which is hidden by the nib ring. This applies to both historical and modern nibs. These stamps can already be found on the gold nibs of the models 100 / 100N and 400, if they were made of 18 carat gold.


These marks are easier to discover, of course, when they are placed in the visible area of the nib. This is the case for many modern nibs of the M600 Old Style, M800 and M1000 series.
The stamp with the characters PF is probably a responsibility mark according to the former E|N stamp. The responsibility brand must be registered by the manufacturers and be affixed to gold products. We actually don't know for what country or regulations this was necessary after 1994.

In Switzerland there are also regulations what make a responsibility mark necessary. For this market, Pelikan registered some Logos and Symbols as responisibility mark so the Pelikan Logo itself is registered and e.g. the LEVEL lettering. You can find the registered responsibility marks for Pelikan

The stamp with the signs E|N were installed by Pelikan until about 1994 on 18 carat gold nibs.
In addition, some pens have punches or other symbols, some of which look like a damage or a material defect. These are so-called control stamps, which were applied by customs at the time of importation. The picture below presumably from the French customs, where this practice was carried out on nibs until 1994.
On 4th of January, 1994, the Code général des impôts - Article 532 had been abolished. Before the exemption limit in gold was only 0.5 grams, until 2001 it was 1 grams and from that time it is now 3 grams of gold.
A French "Bureau de la garantie" has confirmed that the nib shown below bears an importer punch with the symbol of the earth with the initials TK, as well as a guarantee mark from Strasbourg (the curculionidae) for 750/1000 respectively 18 ct gold.

Nibs with corresponding stamps are more popular with some collectors. This is mainly due to the fact that the approximate production period can be read from it and more recent nibs are considered to be potentially more rigid in use.
Like material errors, the more modern control stamps with the eagle head looks as well. The eagle head is the small control mark of the French customs for 750/1000 Gold

Apparently, the nib of the modern M6xx series with 18 ct gold has a share of (over) one gram of pure gold. The nibs intended for France were also given the appropriate control stamp, but elsewhere than it is known from the M800 nibs.



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 楼主| 发表于 2019-2-9 10:24 | 只看该作者
大家各取所需,原贴地址:
https://www.pelikan-collectibles ... nce-1929/index.html
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发表于 2019-2-9 11:20 来自手机 | 只看该作者
动物印好棒,有的是个坑d(д)
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发表于 2019-2-9 14:58 | 只看该作者
哈哈那只双色尖的双色好囧啊
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发表于 2019-2-9 15:01 | 只看该作者
3B...
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发表于 2019-2-9 21:50 | 只看该作者
所以所谓的双章的左面那个都是海关印戳?
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发表于 2019-2-9 22:30 | 只看该作者
xsxsx 发表于 2019-2-9 21:50
所以所谓的双章的左面那个都是海关印戳?

记得法产75也有鹰头戳来着
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发表于 2019-2-10 01:14 来自手机 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2019-2-10 01:14 | 只看该作者
xsxsx 发表于 2019-2-9 21:50
所以所谓的双章的左面那个都是海关印戳?

按道理不应该叫做海关标记,而是当年有些国家规定能够叫做金的东西起码要有18K,那么14K就不能叫做金尖。那么既然叫做金,就要有一套hallmark来标记原产商的印记,万一含金量不足就算诈骗了,能找到是谁产的(很蛋疼。。。不过这规则应该是针对首饰制品的,没办法)来算账。

我觉得说不定当时的老600也是为此而诞生的。就像当年面向法国瑞士的146就是18K的笔尖。

当然,作为14K笔尖的强烈支持者,反正章都是在18K尖上的,而我一直觉得笔尖用18K尖就没啥意思。




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发表于 2019-2-10 17:03 来自手机 | 只看该作者
涨知识了。
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发表于 2019-2-12 13:34 | 只看该作者
韦伯猫 发表于 2019-2-10 01:14
按道理不应该叫做海关标记,而是当年有些国家规定能够叫做金的东西起码要有18K,那么14K就不能叫做金尖。 ...

那还有21k的尖,怎么办?
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发表于 2019-2-12 14:04 来自手机 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2019-2-19 18:58 来自手机 | 只看该作者
我的理解倒是傲慢的瑞士人和法国人不认为14K是金笔尖,所有当年PELIKAN出口瑞士和法国的笔尖都是18K,如同万宝龙专供法国的笔18C/K很多,所以大家喜欢双胡PF18的就去瑞士和法国淘。
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