突然想起个问题,钢笔有没有象名表那样的排名呢?

modena · 发表于 2006-4-9 22:50

<p>今天没事突然想起来的,呵呵,名表的排名虽然意见不大统一,但基本还是有个名次的,不知道钢笔有没有这种排名呢?</p>

yuhang · 发表于 2006-4-10 22:01

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>redondo_vip</i>在2006-4-10 18:31:44的发言：</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>duofoldest</i>在2006-4-10 16:27:57的发言：</b><br/><p>pentrace</p><p><a href="http://www.pentrace.net/article022301060.html">http://www.pentrace.net/article022301060.html</a></p><p>"

arker occupies an enormous range of prices from $5.00 to $10,000. We are not interested in producing disposable pens." "

arker competes head-on with Waterman. Montblanc has 11% of market share, Parker 9% and Waterman 4% followed by Pelikan, Omas, Cartier and Aurora.</p></div><p></p>5USD以下不算，那英雄就丧失了半壁江山</div><p></p> 何止半壁？

万宝鹈鹕鸟 · 发表于 2006-4-10 21:55

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>jack120</i>在2006-4-10 20:00:39的发言：</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>後羿</i>在2006-4-10 17:50:28的发言：</b><br/><p>MB所有钢笔在全球的市场占领率能比HERO高?不可能的，有前提的.</p></div><p></p>为什么不可以比英雄高？不过我觉得mb占有率第一有点像说奔驰汽车市场占有率第一呵呵，要是说派克第一倒是比较容易理解</div><p>其实mb和英雄在中国的市场占有率问题上有得一拼。我记得以前在北京分公司签收快件的时候，快递员用的就是小白星圆珠笔。</p>

星星 · 发表于 2006-4-10 21:50

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>jack120</i>在2006-4-10 20:00:39的发言：</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>後羿</i>在2006-4-10 17:50:28的发言：</b><br/><p>MB所有钢笔在全球的市场占领率能比HERO高?不可能的，有前提的.</p></div><p></p>为什么不可以比英雄高？不过我觉得mb占有率第一有点像说奔驰汽车市场占有率第一呵呵，要是说派克第一倒是比较容易理解</div><p>"要是说派克第一倒是比较容易理解",,,,很难理解 </p><p>如果加上英雄几十年来做的"派克",那倒是真的"比较容易理解"</p>

superskell · 发表于 2006-4-10 20:18

中国人有几个没用过hero的？架不住人口众多阿，这就是中国特色...

jack120 · 发表于 2006-4-10 20:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>後羿</i>在2006-4-10 17:50:28的发言：</b><br/><p>MB所有钢笔在全球的市场占领率能比HERO高?不可能的，有前提的.</p></div><p></p>为什么不可以比英雄高？不过我觉得mb占有率第一有点像说奔驰汽车市场占有率第一呵呵，要是说派克第一倒是比较容易理解

superskell · 发表于 2006-4-10 19:30

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>星星</i>在2006-4-10 18:36:56的发言：</b><br/>肯定是英雄占有率第一,无需讨论</div><p>同意，在我们学校看用钢笔的，多数是hero</p>

星星 · 发表于 2006-4-10 18:36

肯定是英雄占有率第一,无需讨论

redondo_vip · 发表于 2006-4-10 18:31

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>duofoldest</i>在2006-4-10 16:27:57的发言：</b><br/><p>pentrace</p><p><a href="http://www.pentrace.net/article022301060.html">http://www.pentrace.net/article022301060.html</a></p><p>"

arker occupies an enormous range of prices from $5.00 to $10,000. We are not interested in producing disposable pens." "

arker competes head-on with Waterman. Montblanc has 11% of market share, Parker 9% and Waterman 4% followed by Pelikan, Omas, Cartier and Aurora.</p></div><p></p>5USD以下不算，那英雄就丧失了半壁江山

後羿 · 发表于 2006-4-10 17:50

<p>MB所有钢笔在全球的市场占领率能比HERO高?不可能的，有前提的.</p>

woodylee · 发表于 2006-4-10 17:33

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>mr_chenlei</i>在2006-4-10 15:58:44的发言：</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>duofoldest</i>在2006-4-10 15:42:27的发言：</b><br/><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">全球</span>市占率</p></span><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">1.mb</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">2.parker</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">3.waterman</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">4.pelikan</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">5.</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">Omas</font></span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">6.Cartier</font></span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">7.Aurora</font></span></p></div><p></p>同问：此信息的出处？请注明来源。</div><p></p>MB佔有率肯定不是第一的,應該是中低檔第一的

下午茶 · 发表于 2006-4-10 16:56

<p>各有各的优点,不好排吧</p><p></p>

duofoldest · 发表于 2006-4-10 16:27

<p>pentrace</p><p><a href="http://www.pentrace.net/article022301060.html">http://www.pentrace.net/article022301060.html</a></p><p>"

arker occupies an enormous range of prices from $5.00 to $10,000. We are not interested in producing disposable pens." "

arker competes head-on with Waterman. Montblanc has 11% of market share, Parker 9% and Waterman 4% followed by Pelikan, Omas, Cartier and Aurora.</p>

mr_chenlei · 发表于 2006-4-10 15:58

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>duofoldest</i>在2006-4-10 15:42:27的发言：</b><br/><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">全球</span>市占率</p></span><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">1.mb</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">2.parker</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">3.waterman</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">4.pelikan</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">5.</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">Omas</font></span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">6.Cartier</font></span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">7.Aurora</font></span></p></div><p></p>同问：此信息的出处？请注明来源。

万宝鹈鹕鸟 · 发表于 2006-4-10 15:57

<p>这个<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">全球市场占有率是针对3000元以上的笔得来的？</span></p>

duofoldest · 发表于 2006-4-10 15:42

<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">全球</span>市占率</p></span><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">1.mb</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">2.parker</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">3.waterman</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">4.pelikan</span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">5.</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">Omas</font></span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">6.Cartier</font></span></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="Arial" size="2">7.Aurora</font></span></p>

mr_chenlei · 发表于 2006-4-10 14:53

照楼上所说的补充一点：我觉得笔首先是工具，是拿来用的，不是拿来供的；如果是精美的工艺品，用起来更爽。就象关公的青龙偃月刀，何尝不是一件精美的工具？

星星 · 发表于 2006-4-10 14:47

于我而言,笔是艺术品,至少是工艺品

jack120 · 发表于 2006-4-10 14:08

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2006-4-10 10:59:42的发言：</b><br/><p>MB, 1st rank in pocket jewellery;</p><p>

elikan, 1st rank in writing instrument.</p><p>怎么比法？</p></div><p>意思是说mb是artist，Pelikan是technician，呵呵 </p><p>高处不胜寒阿，大家都可以做的很奢华，但不是都人愿意买单的。</p>

韦伯猫 · 发表于 2006-4-10 11:56

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>mr_chenlei</i>在2006-4-10 11:21:59的发言：</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"> </div><p></p>有依据吗？请注明信息来源。</div><p><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3;">当然有一些依据，当然也没有什么依据。</font></p><p><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3;">说没有依据，刚才Long说了钢笔没什么民间排名，更没有什么官方排名。</font></p><p><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3;">说有一些依据，MB以制造pocket jewellery自居，<br/>pelikan以制造writing instrument，这些词都出现在他们的广告中且MB去年开始只参加珠宝展不参加文具展，而pelikan参加文具展从不参加珠宝展。这些都是旁证。</font></p><p><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3;">总而言之，没有排名。</font></p><p></p>

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