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发表于 2012-8-11 21:21 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
ff的材质问题  听论坛上某高人说 目前ff的italian leather  甚至real leather 系列 都不是用的纯牛皮,有没有哪位高人说说 事实到底是怎么样的,如果想入手纯牛皮的 该选择何种标志的  grained leather 是指木纹皮 还是指谷物合成皮呢 请指教 多谢
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-11 23:00 | 只看该作者
Italian leather is often considered to be the best kind of leather in the world. Many designer brands, such as Gucci and Prada, create purses, shoes, belts, jackets and other items from Italian leather. Some of the world's best furniture makers create high-quality couches and chairs using Italian leather.

Most traditional leather comes from the hide of a cow, but Italian leather is often made from the hide of ostriches instead. Ostrich leather is thicker and more durable than traditional leather, and is used by designers including Hermes, Prada, and Louis Vuitton. Italian leather made from ostrich hide also has larger bumps on the surface, creating a "goosebump" appearance. Products made from cow, lamb, or other types of animals may also be considered Italian leather, however.

Italian leather is also traditionally known for the quality of its craftsmanship. Generally, Italian leather is "full grain" leather, which is made from the very best raw hides, so that they do not need to be sanded to get rid of imperfections. Full-grain leather is tougher and more durable than other types of leather, and as it ages, it gains a beautiful sheen.

Because most Italian leather is of such high quality, and can stay in beautiful condition much longer than other types of leather, it can command a premium price. An Italian leather purse, made from ostrich hide, can easily cost upwards of $700 US dollars (USD).

It is important to consider that the term "Italian leather" does not rely on any particular standard, and so the phrase itself cannot guarantee that the leather will be of the highest quality. Rather than paying attention to the term itself, you should consider whether the brand is known for great quality, and what type of hide the leather is made from. If possible, try to see the product in person before you buy it, so that you know the Italian leather is of the quality you expect.


Since we’re all about watch straps here, its probably a good idea to know what “Italian Leather” is. Kind of like knowing what “Swiss Made” is when you are buying a Swiss Watch. Of course, any term that attempts to add value to a product tends to be exploited – stuff like “surgical steel” is now no more an indicator of quality than it is a glorified word for “stainless steel”.

Now, back to Italian Leather. What is it exactly? Well, in short, it refers to leather that is tanned in Italy. Italy has some of the best and most experienced tanneries in the world, with 15% of the world’s entire Leather Output. While it means that the leather is tanned in Italy, it does not mean that the cows that produced the leathers were raised in Italy. Much of the leather that is tanned in Italy is farmed in surrounding areas such as Sweden. Part of the reason that so many Tanneries ended up in Italy is because between 1911-1956, polution from tanneries was a problem causing many countries to shut down their leather tanneries.

In the end, while there are great tanneries in Italy, there is nothing really extra-special about their leathers. Generally speaking you are more assured of a better leather from Italy than you are of a leather from say China, but both countries are capable of producing extremely high quality leather.
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发表于 2012-8-12 13:11 | 只看该作者
不懂皮子的分类。不过filofax写了leather的应该都是真皮阿,合成皮的filofax种类很少,写的是leather-like。我原来一本finsbury是grained leather, 是真皮。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-12 14:30 | 只看该作者
回复 4# uuchecknow

特意在外国网站 搜了一下 原来国外leather通常就是指牛皮 而言 这点和国内正相反,国内若不说是真皮 说是皮革的通常是指假皮

Italian leather is often considered to be the best kind of leather in the world. Many designer brands, such as Gucci and Prada, create purses, shoes, belts, jackets and other items from Italian leather. Some of the world's best furniture makers create high-quality couches and chairs using Italian leather.

Most traditional leather comes from the hide of a cow, but Italian leather is often made from the hide of ostriches instead. Ostrich leather is thicker and more durable than traditional leather, and is used by designers including Hermes, Prada, and Louis Vuitton. Italian leather made from ostrich hide also has larger bumps on the surface, creating a "goosebump" appearance. Products made from cow, lamb, or other types of animals may also be considered Italian leather, however.

Italian leather is also traditionally known for the quality of its craftsmanship. Generally, Italian leather is "full grain" leather, which is made from the very best raw hides, so that they do not need to be sanded to get rid of imperfections. Full-grain leather is tougher and more durable than other types of leather, and as it ages, it gains a beautiful sheen.

Because most Italian leather is of such high quality, and can stay in beautiful condition much longer than other types of leather, it can command a premium price. An Italian leather purse, made from ostrich hide, can easily cost upwards of $700 US dollars (USD).

It is important to consider that the term "Italian leather" does not rely on any particular standard, and so the phrase itself cannot guarantee that the leather will be of the highest quality. Rather than paying attention to the term itself, you should consider whether the brand is known for great quality, and what type of hide the leather is made from. If possible, try to see the product in person before you buy it, so that you know the Italian leather is of the quality you expect.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-12 14:34 | 只看该作者
色影无忌 那边有人一拍脑袋 就说italian leather 等filofax的 都是假皮 我看 不可信,,误导很多人
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发表于 2012-8-13 05:22 | 只看该作者
色影无忌 那边有人一拍脑袋 就说italian leather 等filofax的 都是假皮 我看 不可信,,误导很多人
奇异恩典 发表于 2012-8-12 14:34



    italian leather或者deluxe leather表明这皮很好
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发表于 2012-8-13 08:13 | 只看该作者
你要看是哪种ff,有真皮有合成皮的
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发表于 2012-8-23 14:41 | 只看该作者
回复 8# dukeorange


    classic系列的皮子表面太完美了,很不像真皮。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-23 16:19 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 奇异恩典 于 2012-8-23 16:27 编辑

注意国外标leather一定是指顶级真皮的,,国内不注明的都是假皮 很简单 正是天朝和蛮夷之地思维的不同, 我大天朝聪明的多了,,,,悲哀,,,
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发表于 2012-8-23 22:40 | 只看该作者
回复 10# 奇异恩典


    有些ff上写着real leather。这个让人很纠结。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-24 16:51 | 只看该作者
回复 11# nbsong


    这个问题 我最近请教了一位英国的filofax达人,,原来近几年开始标real的 原先几年的版本真皮是直接标italian leather的 所以 没有问题,不管旧版 新版 只要是皮的成分不纯 都会直接说明,不然不会标leather的
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发表于 2012-8-25 10:41 | 只看该作者
回复 12# 奇异恩典


    也就是说,只要标了 leather,那就是真皮了?
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-25 10:51 | 只看该作者
回复 13# nbsong


    是的
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