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鸟M800、豆腐、长刀研三支笔大家怎么取舍?

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41#
发表于 2007-2-8 11:45 | 只看该作者
都能尝试以下更好!我未曾没用过鸟笔。
42#
发表于 2007-2-8 11:46 | 只看该作者
都能尝试以下更好!我未用过鸟笔。
43#
发表于 2007-2-8 11:47 | 只看该作者
感受146和长刀研,我在书法专区作过详细说明。
44#
发表于 2007-2-12 13:58 | 只看该作者
多去尝试,就能找到适合自己的,我日用还是小豆腐多一些。[em05]
45#
发表于 2007-2-13 02:05 | 只看该作者
問題還要先回覆才看得見,這要怎麼回答,好奇怪的規矩,呵呵
46#
发表于 2007-2-18 23:33 | 只看该作者
<p>鸟800很不错</p>
47#
发表于 2007-2-19 22:22 | 只看该作者
800的F也够粗啊!
48#
发表于 2007-2-19 22:43 | 只看该作者
<p>M800的F尖应该很细了,我比了一下,M800的M尖和卓尔的F尖差不多</p><p></p>
49#
发表于 2007-2-19 23:03 | 只看该作者
<p>M400的EF正好!M800的F已经和派克100不相上下了,绝对比我的老金卓要粗.</p><p>用小鸟的笔也挺矛盾.M800体积还好,中等身材,握感自如,平常记些东西很方便,就是F笔尖实际偏粗了.M400更多是在家拿出来写写玩玩,笔身太小巧玲珑了,多写几个字手指就酸了,可是EF的笔尖粗细到正合适.</p>[em06]
50#
发表于 2007-3-6 17:23 | 只看该作者
看看
51#
发表于 2007-3-9 12:58 | 只看该作者
<p>自己喜欢豆腐多一些</p>
52#
发表于 2007-3-9 19:03 | 只看该作者
我爱吃豆腐……
53#
发表于 2007-3-9 21:13 | 只看该作者
豆腐
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发表于 2007-3-9 21:58 | 只看该作者
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55#
发表于 2007-3-12 13:08 | 只看该作者
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">没法选,三支都有了。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">1.<span style="FONT: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">外观</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">M800</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">最大,最漂亮,握感最好。小黑豆腐和</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀都是保守经典的造型。小黑豆腐更好些,因为长刀的材料用得节俭,质感太单薄,而且少了</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">笔顶的白花,整体地摊感比较强。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">2.<span style="FONT: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">外观做工都很出色,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀更细致一些。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">3.<span style="FONT: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">笔尖造型</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">M800</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">最漂亮,整体图案设计和形状最美观。老版小黑豆腐也相当不错,我比较喜欢笔尖头三角角度大的造型。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀笔尖造型传统,花纹俗气。三个笔尖都算比较大的。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">4.<span style="FONT: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">笔尖做工,同在</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">倍放大镜下观看,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀优势极为明显,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">21K</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">金笔尖加工精度极高,精致精细。笔尖铱粒对称,光滑,完美!其它两个一般,小黑豆腐更好些。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">5.<span style="FONT: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">笔尖手感,小黑豆腐顺滑无比,下水流畅,摩擦感最小,书写笔尖变形最小,很爽的手感。不过绝对不同于圆珠笔和签字笔。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀笔尖偏软,弹性最佳,摩擦感略大,笔尖变形最大,下水最猛。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">M800</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">阻力和摩擦力最大,手感偏涩,硬度居中,下水居中。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">6.<span style="FONT: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">字迹粗细,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀是</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">MF</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的,其他两支都是</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">F</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的。小黑豆腐最适合日常使用,字迹最细,略粗于英雄</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">100</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,水量最合适。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">M800</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">字迹明显比小黑豆腐粗多了,水量也大,干的慢,比较适合签名。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">146</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">复刻版的长刀字迹比</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">M800</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">还略粗一些,从手感上看更适合练习书法。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">总体感觉最佳的还是小黑豆腐,因为找一支字迹偏细而又不断水同时又顺滑无比的日用笔太难了。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><p></p></span></p>
56#
发表于 2007-3-12 17:23 | 只看该作者
<p>只有飘带版大豆腐幻黑m nib和650f nib&nbsp;&nbsp; 豆腐m比鸟f粗很多.</p><p>豆腐就是硬滑.下水中大 650也比略硬,下水中小</p><p>豆腐正好比650大小小一圈,笔尖笔身都是,所有地方都大长一点点</p><p>笔身粗度差别略大,但是握笔处差别不大, 因为他们的笔握曲线不同,豆腐有内收.</p><p>外观看自己喜欢.反正随便选,差也差不到那里去.呵呵</p><p></p><p></p><p></p>
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57#
发表于 2007-3-12 17:28 | 只看该作者
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58#
发表于 2007-3-12 17:45 | 只看该作者
<p>我的下一个目标应该是M400或M600,就投M800吧。实现这个目标再一个目标就是146了[em06]</p><p>&nbsp; </p>

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