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标题: [转帖]Chinese Pens, I can't understand your frenzy! [打印本页]
作者: dawei 时间: 2007-1-12 09:22
标题: [转帖]Chinese Pens, I can't understand your frenzy!
<div class="HtmlCode"><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><div class="HtmlCode">I noticed that Chinese pens get a lot of attention here as of lately. <br/>Although I understand that they are cheap and apparently good for the price you pay, I have to speak out against them. <br/><br/>Most of these Chinese pens are just very ordinary copies of already existing pens. <br/><br/>Nobody really seems to notice that this is just illegal in most cases. By buying Chinese pens we weaken the European/American pen companies that we so dearly love. I am not some sort of jingoist who thinks that one should only buy goods from one's own country. That is not the point. The point is that these Chinese makers take design ideas and steal them by copying them. The patent regulations in China are ridiculous to say the least. I know about many German and American companies (not pen companies!) that try to sue Chinese companies because they recklessly stole their ideas. <br/><br/>I have no problems, if Chinese pen makers come up with own, truly Chinese designs. I would welcome such pens at any time! <br/>Just think about the money a Chinese laborer gets paid for making a Parker 51 copy: <br/>It therefore comes as no surprise that places like the Sheaffer factory close for good. Because nobody wants to pay for their work anymore. Work that is highly qualified has its price. <br/><br/>I also despise the marketing practices of these CHinese sellers on ebay that try to peg their pens as originals: This is dishonest. Our little fountain pen enthusiasts world depends on honesty and I have always been treated very honestly by all people from FPN. But can I expect the same from these sellers? Of course, when we buy such pens, we normally do know that they are spin-offs and not the real deal. But only by accepting such an offer one furthers the racketeering of said dealers. By commmitting to such purchases we'll cut off our noses to spite our faces. <br/><br/>These Chinese pens may be good writers but nobody can tell me that they are like the originals. There is a difference, even if it doesn't show so obviously at first. It will, however, in the course of years of use. You get what you pay for!<br/>
lus, do these companies offer any after-purchase service? Any customer service? I have never heard of that! So if such a pen breaks, we might as well just throw it away and buy a new one. But then, what's the difference between a BIC ballpoint and the "new" generation of fountain pens? </div></div><a href="http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22737&hl">http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22737&hl</a>=</div><div class="postcolor">。。。。。。。</div><div class="postcolor"></div><div class="postcolor"><br/></div><!--Element not supported - Type: 8 Name: #comment-->
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作者: dawei 时间: 2007-1-12 09:26
<p>外国讨论中国钢笔...</p>
作者: Gene 时间: 2007-1-12 10:16
<p>Don't worry about it..... nothing to special... no flames or anything, just some frustrations from some dumb members. where are you dawei? PM me.</p><p> </p>
作者: pathway921 时间: 2007-1-12 10:28
<p>thank you ! A VERY GOOD FOUNTAIN PEN FORUM!</p><p>I am on my way ~~ new friends and new place to see! </p><p></p><p></p>
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作者: dawei 时间: 2007-1-12 10:36
<p>我在北京</p><p>随便贴几段</p><div class="postcolor">I own 2 Hero 100's and 2 Parker "51"s. The Heros are not as smooth a writer as the "51"s are, but considering the Hero has a western extra fine nib, they are plenty smooth. Do they hold as much ink as the "51"...no. Do they have the same feel of quality, does the Hero feel like it will last 50 or more years...no, but only time will tell if it will. </div><div class="postcolor">IMHO, there are a lot of quality Chinese pens. Are there 'dogs' too...definitely.</div><div class="postcolor">Again, my opinion, but in<font color="#ff0000">
</font><font color="#000000"><strong>5-10 years China will be a much more respected origin for fountain pens.</strong></font></div><div class="postcolor">French
Chinese invented lacquering that are used by Dupont and other pen companies. Japanese urushi is a form of lacquering just that it is much more refined and higher quality. Also, just because a pen is made in Italy or some other countries, often include material sourced in China. Do you know many modnern day acrylics and （赛璐珞）celluloids no longer sourced in Italy, but China? of course now with a name brand attached to it, they now charge you much more for that pen.</div><div class="postcolor">Kevin
I have two Hero pens, a jumbo 616 and an older version 329. I do not have a problem with buying these pens, because as others have said Parker let the patent expire and no longer makes the pens after which these are modelled.</div><div class="postcolor">The 616 was a gift last year from a friend whose parents still live in Hong Kong and encouraged her early use of fountain pens by giving her a Hero when she was 11.</div><div class="postcolor">I bought the 329 for $8 a few weeks after receiving the 616, because I enjoyed writing with the 616 so much. Most of my pens are of the inexpensive sort. To paraphrase Duke Ellington, I guess I'm just a cheapo so and so.</div><div class="postcolor">If you take what I paid for the 15 pens I have and divide it evenly among them it comes out to just over $37 per pen. I like pens that do not cost a fortune but write like they could have. I have paid nearly 25 times what I did for this 329, and promptly returned the pen because it wrote so poorly. </div><div class="postcolor">I would not buy something that is a direct violation of another company's patent, but I don't think that is an issue with these Hero pens I own and enjoy.
作者: matmat 时间: 2007-1-12 11:40
<p>这谁写的呀,阶级敌人?</p>
作者: matmat 时间: 2007-1-12 11:47
<p>卖便宜,他就有意见了.冠冕堂皇.呵呵</p><p>那我们不要找nasa收火药使用专利费,找penguine收纸费?</p><p>不过国笔总体质量品位确实还差很多...</p>
作者: benben 时间: 2007-1-12 12:16
<font size="5">他主要是说我们不尊重知识产权，照抄人家的设计啦...</font>
作者: benben 时间: 2007-1-12 12:22
<p><font size="4">还有就是样子象原版货，但是质量经不起时间的考验啦...</font></p><p><font size="4">还有就是无法提供售后服务（对他们老外来说），坏了只能扔掉，和一次性的水笔没区别啦...</font></p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-1-12 12:48
<p>要有中國特色的自主鋼筆產業談何容易....當然仿冒是有錯!</p>
作者: Pelikanism 时间: 2007-1-12 13:06
<p>初中生口气。一笑了之。</p>
作者: matmat 时间: 2007-1-12 13:36
<p>其实就是利益啦.呵呵.</p><p>所以要看内在的含义,如果看字面不是觉得人家说的也蛮有道理.其实某种意义上也的确是这样.</p><p></p>
作者: 飘丫头 时间: 2007-1-13 17:30
<p>切.....我们的强项是毛笔好不好......有本事和我们比比做毛笔、用毛笔啊....</p><p>好象他们自己的人有多么天使似的.....还不是有这样的事情....</p><p>外国人老爱以点概面，看了《秋菊打官司》就觉得中国男人和女人就应该长得和老谋子和巩俐阿姨一个样.....缺心眼儿是怎么着</p>
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