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标题: 关于彩色派克世纪笔杆 [打印本页]

作者: penlover    时间: 2006-8-20 11:40
标题: 关于彩色派克世纪笔杆
<p>同轴镂空的原理明白以后,我忽然想知道关系到它所使用的材料上面,根据说明,这种制作世纪的材料叫做acrylic, </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-8/20068201194035541.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/></p><p>上图是刚刚买到的新世纪Check金笔,也可以参考派克马赛克那种笔身,</p><p>如果说同轴镂空是基于一整块材料放在机床上做出一个笔杆,如下图:</p><p><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-8/200682011284596846.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /></p><p>按照我的想法,这种笔杆就应该是上面图里面的一个制作过程,但是,既然这种材料是一整块长方体,是一个实心的东西,那必然当一个笔杆做出来的时候其表面应该是什么东西都没有的,如果按这种方式思考,像我买的Check钢笔,它外表的这种漂亮的彩色格纹,就应该是后期涂上去的然后再打磨光亮光亮的。但是如果说长方体内没有色彩,那么派克的环黑明珠那种表面的条纹又如何称之为材料自然形成的“天然条纹”</p><p>但是如果说这种实心的长方体,本身里面也是充满着颜色的(比如看它的横断面,可以看见充斥着东西,试着想象),那么制作出来的这种笔杆怎么可能在一个圆的曲面上小黑蓝长方体会如此均匀分布(这个在数学计算上是行不通地)。</p><p>而且当观察笔杆内部的时候发现并没有这种黑蓝色的小快。</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>谁明白的讲一下吧~~~。</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>我觉得如果用这种材料作写字台或者茶几会非常漂亮。甚至做壁画屏风。。。</p>
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作者: duofoldest    时间: 2006-8-20 15:19
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">拿灯照笔盖内部</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">就知不是用涂的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">因为要涂里面比涂表面费工</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">成本将大增</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">量产笔没人会这样做</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p>
作者: 韦伯猫    时间: 2006-8-20 15:30
谁告诉你说豆腐马赛克是用同轴镂空工艺拉。
作者: penlover    时间: 2006-8-20 16:26
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>duofoldest</i>在2006-8-20 15:19:54的发言:</b><br/><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">拿灯照笔盖内部</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就知不是用涂的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">因为要涂里面比涂表面费工</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">成本将大增</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">量产笔没人会这样做</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p></div><p>有人说是在里面注入色素,我也不知道了。</p>
作者: penlover    时间: 2006-8-20 16:31
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2006-8-20 15:30:37的发言:</b><br/>谁告诉你说豆腐马赛克是用同轴镂空工艺拉。</div><p>那个号称全国派克专业专卖店的湖南长沙网页上标注的:</p><p><table cellspacing="0" width="720" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="1" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; MARGIN-TOP: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid;"><tbody><center><center><center><tr><td valign="middle" align="center" width="278" colspan="2" height="29" style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font color="#ff0000">世纪系列</font></td><td class="xl26" valign="top" align="center" width="424" colspan="2" height="29"> </td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" align="left" width="52" height="29">17002</td><td class="xl24" valign="middle" align="left" width="226" height="29"><a href="http://www.hnparker.com/17002.html"><font color="#000000" size="2">世纪精装幻黑明珠墨水笔</font></a></td><td class="xl26" valign="middle" align="center" width="69" height="29"></td><td class="xl26" valign="middle" align="left" 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color="#ff3300"></font></td><td class="xl26" valign="middle" width="355" height="29" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt;"><font color="#ff3300">18K双色金笔头,笔帽笔杆为整块高强度特级树脂同轴镂空。</font></td></tr></center></center></center></tbody></table></p><p></p><p>不过要是说这个网站纯属自吹自擂吓扯淡,那我也没办法了,因为好像中国网站能找到介绍说明的也就这个了,连派克的网站都没有说明。不过你用google搜一下同轴镂空,基本上关于钢笔的也就是Duofold,那几个国内买笔的网站都注明了,包括论坛上几个卖家的网站。</p><p></p><p>韦伯猫知道是怎么制作的么???我现在对那个同轴镂空的理解也就是long37说的那种在机床上加工那几句话。</p>
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作者: duofoldest    时间: 2006-8-20 18:05
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">The Parker Duofold Mosaic is created by building up a composite of different coloured strips of cast acrylic. These are diffusion bonded to form a solid block of material from which the component parts of the writing instrument are then precision machined and polished.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">取自</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">parker duofold mosaic red</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">说明书</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">其它甚么也没说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">自己去猜想吧</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"><p></p></span></p>
作者: long37    时间: 2006-8-21 00:51
<p>呵呵,你整个理解就错了。加工这些笔的原料就不是方型的,它们是圆的长条.花纹已经预先做好的,也就是说原料棍是有花纹的,不是上色的.</p><p>还有一种加工方法就是在注塑的时候采用射出成型技术,这样也可以制造造出花纹.</p><p>这些花纹绝对不是上油漆弄的。</p><p></p><p>还有湖南的那个网站看看图就好了,介绍就别看了。都搞笑的介绍.同轴镂空这个名词好象就是他们发明的.现在到处都见,但是估计卖笔的自己也没几个搞的清楚,都传来传去,以为多复杂一样.看着我就想笑.</p><p>车削工艺严格来说不能叫什么镂空,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p>
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作者: penlover    时间: 2006-8-21 02:20
哦,这次终于明白了,可是感觉那些被抠出去的材料真的是被彻底浪费了。。。。。。。最后利用的仅仅是外面的一层空壳。。。不过我很想知道机床是怎么把一个实心的圆柱给掏空城一个圆柱套的,里面的东西最后是粉末了还是另一个小的实心圆柱。。




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