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标题: 关于派克偷英雄技术一事 [打印本页]
作者: Z4 时间: 2006-5-18 19:53
标题: 关于派克偷英雄技术一事
<p>美国的派克金笔是头号名牌,但中国的“英雄”、“金星”也有一项单项技术领先,这就是不锈钢笔套的抛光技术。派克公司的两名副总裁来华,意外发现大陆厂家完全实行门户开放,他们便携来摄像机,在众目睽睽之下,把抛光机的结构及运作拍下全套录像。</p><p> </p><p>不知是不是真的?</p>
作者: Z4 时间: 2006-5-18 19:54
<p>触目惊心---中国泄密带来的损失 </p><p> 随着大陆改革的国门洞开,及国际冷战时代的结束,大陆之“泄密事件”仍频,但主要流向已转移到经济领域。只是大陆的“保密工作”尚未适应这一转型期,故经济情报方面疏漏百出,无密可保。 <br/>1981年9月20日,大陆首次用一枚运载火箭发射了三颗人造卫星,新华社的简短报道语焉不详。国际间反应却是爆炸性的,因为这极可能标志着大陆已掌握“多弹头分导重返大气层”的高科技。各国驻华武官均受命向大陆官员和一切可能的渠道查探详细消息和资料。大陆官员当然是守口如瓶,可万万想不到,卫星发射后仅三天,北京一家电台即播出题为《太空奥秘夺桂冠》的广播稿。次日,北京一家报纸干脆登出《我国第九颗人造卫星》的报道,并附有三颗卫星的图样,在车间实施组装的照片。前后两稿都翔实报道了这三颗太空飞行物的运行轨道、无线电遥测频率等等。 <br/>国外情报部门如获至宝,皆大欢喜。大陆军工部门却大惊失色。一查之下,原来是某部一工程师之“杰作”。该人不经请示,稿子在火箭发射前已写好,卫星升空后传送电台、报社,并谎称已经“送审”。此人为自己的好大喜功吃足苦头,受到上司的严厉处置。 <br/><br/>大陆的“两步发酵法生产维生素C”通过鉴定,为国家重大科技发明,这是人类需求极大、前景无比广阔的科学成果,世界两大产业国瑞士和美国闻风而至,竞相出价要买下这项技术专利。没想到,一星期后,争得脸红脖子粗的两国代表“和气生财”,欢天喜地地回老家去了。原来这项专利便宜到只值一本杂志的价钱!某学报将全部研制过程、细节、配方、剂量刊登无遗。稍有化学常识者,回去按谱炒菜即可,真是得来全不费工夫! <br/><br/>日本人在一次国际蚕业学术会上,对中方代表极尽东道主之谊,规格之高,令大陆代表受宠若惊。原来中方在学术报告上将独创治柞蚕流行病的配方、施药方法甚至病源研究都和盘托出,日本方面不过是回报以东方式的答谢罢了! <br/><br/>日本设有独立一幢楼的广播监听室,昼夜24小时监听和收录大陆中央和地方各省市的电台广播节目,并立即整理,分类存档。 <br/><br/>中国宣纸有“千年寿纸”、“纸中之王”的美称,尤以安徽宣州泾县所产者为最。日本人对奥秘垂涎已久,曾派出情报人员到宣州转悠,后发现泾县宣纸厂漆着标志的车,旋尾随而至。但这回碰了壁,泾县厂方谢绝参观,后来还下令将所有厂车的标志涂去。但是,次年,另一批日本人到了浙江的一个县,一家造纸厂热情款待,有问必答;连蒸煮原材料的碱水浓度这样的细节也言无不尽,临别更赠送檀树皮、长稻草浆和杨桃藤,而这家纸厂正是在泾县的扶持下建立的!此后,日本人志得意满地宣布:世界宣纸,安微泾县第一,日本第二,浙江第三,台湾第四! <br/><br/>日本人在参观景泰蓝厂时,中方慷慨地允许其拍下全部制作工艺流程,不出两年,大陆传统的出口创汇产品景泰蓝直线贬值,原因是日本货杀来了! <br/><br/>中国大豆向来垄断世界市场。美国因饱受大豆品种退化之困扰,已一蹶不振。70年代中美关系解冻。中国将野生大豆种子无偿馈赠给美方。时隔20年,中国在大豆市场上已微不足道,垄断者是美国! <br/><br/>美国的派克金笔是头号名牌,但中国的“英雄”、“金星”也有一项单项技术领先,这就是不锈钢笔套的抛光技术。派克公司的两名副总裁来华,意外发现大陆厂家完全实行门户开放,他们便携来摄像机,在众目睽睽之下,把抛光机的结构及运作拍下全套录像。 <br/><br/>某地方领导干部信口开河,让良种梅山猪无偿赠送给法国作配种,令法国猪种改良研究缩短了20年。同时美国人觉得很冤,他们是花了大价钱才得以从大陆买来同一猪种的。 <br/><br/>大陆生产的胱氨酸为创汇“拳头产品”。但某厂先后数次接待外国客商,详尽解说,并允许拍照录像,胱氨酸的核心机密几乎成了可以免费索取的资料,如今这一化工产品已成了“行货”。 </p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-18 20:28
不仿派克就不錯了
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-18 21:19
楼上的话说的,难道中国就没有一项能让外国仿的?
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-18 22:46
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-18 21:19:50的发言:</b><br/>楼上的话说的,难道中国就没有一项能让外国仿的?</div><p></p><p>事實是如何?</p><p>找個類似的外型不難吧!</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-5-18 22:50:56编辑过]
作者: 不在家的LJun 时间: 2006-5-19 11:45
我没否认英雄学派克,但是派克学英雄就没有可能?
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-19 12:53
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>不在家的LJun</i>在2006-5-19 11:45:22的发言:</b><br/>我没否认英雄学派克,但是派克学英雄就没有可能?</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">派克学甚幺</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">?</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">具体说说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; 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作者: 不在家的LJun 时间: 2006-5-19 15:44
<p>学什么?就是楼主说的笔套抛光技术</p><p>难道就没有消息是真的可能?</p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-19 16:00
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>不在家的LJun</i>在2006-5-19 15:44:44的发言:</b><br/><p>学什么?就是楼主说的笔套抛光技术</p><p>难道就没有消息是真的可能?</p></div><p></p><p>那要請英雄說派克偷學英雄笔套抛光技术的事實,且目前派克用於哪產品是使用英雄的獨門絕活!</p><p>讓大家比照看看....</p><p>1.如同時間段派克沒此技術的產品是情況如何,英雄此時的對比產品現況比較,</p><p>2.copy技術後派克產品前後段與對比英雄產品共同對比......</p><p>樓主該說明到底用於哪些產品上讓大家比較比較,這樣才有意義,讓大家知道英雄有強人之處!不然就是信口雌黃</p><p> </p>
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-19 17:23
<p>看来上面那么长的文章内容全部都是信口雌黄了,无凭无据无对比的</p><p>中国这种破国家,不管做什么产品所用到的技术,肯定没有一项能超过外国的值得外国学习的,中国人笨呗</p>
作者: francise 时间: 2006-5-19 21:10
<p>赞同木头李,虽然他说得可能有些尖锐,但是楼主那段不知从哪里抄来的话显然有很多漏洞,也有些过分主观,。</p><p>我们不是没有一项能超过外国的值得外国学习的东西,超过外国的值得外国学习的东西多得很,但不能片面的说问题,用错误事实下结论。平心而论,我们在更多方面要学习别人更好的,而不是自叹,承认自己的不足,和保护自己的知识产权不矛盾</p><p>只就其中有关化学的“两步发酵法生产维生素C”来说,化工生产不是简单的有了个配方就能规模生产的,从实验室的小试验结论是不能直接跨越到工业级的设备生产,其间有很多差距,没有炒菜那么简单,就是炒菜同样的配料一般的人也没有高级厨师炒得好,写文章的人显然不懂专业。再者,这项技术是申请专利的,只要申请专利,就能被别人查看到,而专利是必须写清楚这项技术发明的细节的。</p><p>提供一个连接,是对两步发酵法生产维生素C技术发展和转让比较客观的描述:<a href="http://www.ebiotrade.com/newsf/2005-3/2005316162649.htm">http://www.ebiotrade.com/newsf/2005-3/2005316162649.htm</a>,看了就会知道转让费是多少,没被偷</p><p>其实大家只要用google搜一下“两步发酵法生产维生素C”,还能搜出很多信息,就能知道事实于这段话有不少差距,文中其他的一些信息也可以去求证。</p>
作者: Z4 时间: 2006-5-19 22:27
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-19 17:23:16的发言:</b><br/><p>看来上面那么长的文章内容全部都是信口雌黄了,无凭无据无对比的</p><p>中国这种破国家,不管做什么产品所用到的技术,肯定没有一项能超过外国的值得外国学习的,中国人笨呗</p></div><p></p><p>你这个人怎么可以这样说话?难道你不是中国人?为什么要说自己的祖国“破”?</p><p>本来是说钢笔的事,你却扯到“中国这种破国家”!</p><p>你很令人讨厌!</p>
作者: mr_chenlei 时间: 2006-5-19 22:31
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>Z4</i>在2006-5-19 22:27:20的发言:</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-19 17:23:16的发言:</b><br/><p>看来上面那么长的文章内容全部都是信口雌黄了,无凭无据无对比的</p><p>中国这种破国家,不管做什么产品所用到的技术,肯定没有一项能超过外国的值得外国学习的,中国人笨呗</p></div><p></p><p>你这个人怎么可以这样说话?难道你不是中国人?为什么要说自己的祖国“破”?</p><p>本来是说钢笔的事,你却扯到“中国这种破国家”!</p><p>你很令人讨厌!</p></div><p></p>Z4别激动,再好好看一下以前的几个帖子。LJun说的是反话,有讽刺的意思。
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 00:24
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">本来</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">po</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">的这篇文章</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">就有强烈的民族主义思想</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">甚至说是大中国主义思想</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">我们热爱国家不是不好</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">是好事</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">但兴起这种信仰与力量的方法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">不是用敌视他民族为基础的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">不经考验</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">自吹自雷</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">会落人口舌的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">并有夜郎自大之嫌</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"> <p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">如文中代表我们中国的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">不锈钢拋光技术被美国代表</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">偷学</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">为真吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">?</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">拋光机是英雄的不可告人的秘密武器吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">?</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">只有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">?</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">怎</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">金星</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">也有一台</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">???</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">还是他们是同一宗师</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">据我了解拋光机不是啥大技术设备</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">….</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">且</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">英雄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">””</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">金星</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">甚至被批控小人之道的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">派克</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">不锈钢笔套的抛光</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">未见有过人之处</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"> <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">是不是被笔者<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">操</span>控我们心思的文章</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">激起我们的热派的中国心</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">但就像笔尖甩出的墨水把我们愚弄了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">…</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"> <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p>
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作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 00:42
<p>不要扯什么发酵了。。俺也不懂</p><p>我就想问楼上的,你从哪得出派克学到英雄某技术纯属谬论?敢如此肯定的说“不学派克就不错了”?</p><p>没有肯定的证据就不能说肯定的话,表示怀疑可以。</p>
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 00:45
<p>除了什么新科学理论。好像从来都是读者找到证据或者疑点证明报道是假的,还没听说要发布假消息的人证明消息是真的。</p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 00:48
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-20 0:42:48的发言:</b><br/><p>不要扯什么发酵了。。俺也不懂</p><p>我就想问楼上的,你从哪得出派克学到英雄某技术纯属谬论?敢如此肯定的说“不学派克就不错了”?</p><p>没有肯定的证据就不能说肯定的话,表示怀疑可以。</p></div><p>...但中国的“英雄”、“金星”也有一项单项技术领先,这就是不锈钢笔套的抛光技术... </p><p>不锈钢笔套的抛光技术到底是誰的????“英雄”還是“金星”,違反專屬性原則</p><p>“不学派克就不错了”=派克51與何英雄雷同</p><p> </p>
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作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 01:42
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-20 0:45:22的发言:</b><br/><p>.....还没听说要发布假消息的人证明消息是真的。</p></div><p>為正義社會,對發假消息的人,我們當以正視聽才是,就跟打假一樣!!!</p>
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 02:52
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>woodylee</i>在2006-5-20 0:48:17的发言:</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-20 0:42:48的发言:</b><br/><p>不要扯什么发酵了。。俺也不懂</p><p>我就想问楼上的,你从哪得出派克学到英雄某技术纯属谬论?敢如此肯定的说“不学派克就不错了”?</p><p>没有肯定的证据就不能说肯定的话,表示怀疑可以。</p></div><p>...但中国的“英雄”、“金星”也有一项单项技术领先,这就是不锈钢笔套的抛光技术... </p><p>不锈钢笔套的抛光技术到底是誰的????“英雄”還是“金星”,違反專屬性原則</p><p>“不学派克就不错了”=派克51與何英雄雷同</p><p> </p><br/></div><p> </p><p>全中国都会就只外国不会难道不行?中国人用筷子比老外强,这技术到底是哪个中国人的? </p><p>我从来没否认英雄学派克,请你不要再提什么派克51。这与我们讨论的问题不相关。“不学派克就不错了”,这是一种狠铁不成钢的语气吗?请问你教育你小孩时(如果有的话),会对孩子他妈说,做好事?这孩子不去杀人就不错了。</p>
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 02:53
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>woodylee</i>在2006-5-20 1:42:30的发言:</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-20 0:45:22的发言:</b><br/><p>.....还没听说要发布假消息的人证明消息是真的。</p></div><p>為正義社會,對發假消息的人,我們當以正視聽才是,就跟打假一樣!!!</p></div><p>对,正等着你正视听呢。打假,要拿出证据打。</p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 03:18
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>LJun</i>在2006-5-20 2:52:26的发言:</b><br/><p>全中国都会就只外国不会难道不行?中国人用筷子比老外强,这技术到底是哪个中国人的? </p><p>我从来没否认英雄学派克,请你不要再提什么派克51。这与我们讨论的问题不相关。“不学派克就不错了”,这是一种狠铁不成钢的语气吗?请问你教育你小孩时(如果有的话),会对孩子他妈说,做好事?这孩子不去杀人就不错了。</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font size="3">我思故我在</font></span></p>
作者: lamy 时间: 2006-5-20 04:39
<p>外国人偷中国人的东西多去了,大英博物馆里不都放着呢么,要说那四大发明,不也是中国人弄出来的么,不过那句“不学派克就不错了”总让人听着那么别扭。钢笔毕竟不是中国人发明的,学人家怎么了?应该学的。</p><p>其实中国人能做好笔,不做的原因就是因为不稀罕做,在我看来那几个n千左右的公爵天坛,龙 或者英雄不比万宝龙差。</p><p></p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 09:01
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>lamy</i>在2006-5-20 4:39:21的发言:</b><br/><p>外国人偷中国人的东西多去了,大英博物馆里不都放着呢么,要说那四大发明,不也是中国人弄出来的么,不过那句“不学派克就不错了”总让人听着那么别扭。钢笔毕竟不是中国人发明的,学人家怎么了?应该学的。</p><p>其实中国人能做好笔,不做的原因就是因为不稀罕做,在我看来那几个n千左右的公爵天坛,龙 或者英雄不比万宝龙差。</p><p></p></div><p>您應該這樣說...."钢笔毕竟不是英雄发明的,学人家怎么了?应该学的。........."</p><p> </p><p>能了解"我思故我在"的哲理嗎?!</p>
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作者: francise 时间: 2006-5-20 11:49
<p>怎么会那么偏激呢?</p><p>就事论事的一句话,也用不着什么事都放大到国家民族情结上</p><p>就算是要辩论对比,也要相类似对比,木头李叹惜只会学习与仿制,怎么能和骂小孩子做不了好人只能当杀人犯相对比?要比也是说这孩子不学好尽偷看别人卷子老骂人之类,随便把一件事推向极端可不好,楼主贴出的那段文字就有这个问题。</p><p>多了解一些专业技术,了解普通工业技法和专有、专利技术的区别,可以省很多事</p>
作者: spinon 时间: 2006-5-20 13:49
<p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713">woodylee兄,象这种帖子根本没必要回,写这种帖子的人目的就是想挑起争端.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713"></font></strong></p>
作者: Z4 时间: 2006-5-20 14:18
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>spinon</i>在2006-5-20 13:49:28的发言:</b><br/><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713">woodylee兄,象这种帖子根本没必要回,写这种帖子的人目的就是想挑起争端.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713"></font></strong></p></div><p></p><p>我可不是想挑起事端</p><p>我是在别处看到,不知道真假</p><p>想问问论坛里知道真相的人</p><p>你不知道真相也不用说我想挑起事端啊</p><p> </p>
作者: spinon 时间: 2006-5-20 14:45
也许这是你开始的想法,可是你看看有些人的跟贴,你是否后悔不该贴这种无意义的帖子.我觉得我说你挑起争端是轻的,应该是别有用心!
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 15:01
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>francise</i>在2006-5-20 11:49:40的发言:</b><br/><p>怎么会那么偏激呢?</p><p>就事论事的一句话,也用不着什么事都放大到国家民族情结上</p><p>就算是要辩论对比,也要相类似对比,木头李叹惜只会学习与仿制,怎么能和骂小孩子做不了好人只能当杀人犯相对比?要比也是说这孩子不学好尽偷看别人卷子老骂人之类,随便把一件事推向极端可不好,楼主贴出的那段文字就有这个问题。</p></div><p>比喻时候自然要夸张一点,按你那样的说法就如同说“英雄不想着提高点制造工艺,尽想着模仿”,如果这样,我也觉得没什么,承认他说的对 </p><p>但是一句酸溜溜的“不学派克就不错了”,生在英雄笔厂所处国家的“偏激、敏感”的我觉得非常不爽,我认为带有藐视和讽刺意味。顺带说一下,看到lee说的,如果我收藏钢笔的话,肯定会有一只英雄的,这和抛光技术、笔尖技术、制造工艺无关。 </p><p>至于woodylee的“我思故我在”。律师在辩论的时候是不是也可以这样来一句就完了?说不定法官大人会在说完“我在故我思”后用手上的锤子扔你。。。</p>
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作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 15:03
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>spinon</i>在2006-5-20 14:45:12的发言:</b><br/>也许这是你开始的想法,可是你看看有些人的跟贴,你是否后悔不该贴这种无意义的帖子.我觉得我说你挑起争端是轻的,应该是别有用心!</div><p></p>有点严重了吧,楼主只是转贴,一个对钢笔有兴趣的人看到消息,又象我一样不能分辨真假,自然会想到到这里来问问,如果有人只是表示怀疑,也不会有这么激烈的争吵。
作者: Z4 时间: 2006-5-20 16:37
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>spinon</i>在2006-5-20 14:45:12的发言:</b><br/>也许这是你开始的想法,可是你看看有些人的跟贴,你是否后悔不该贴这种无意义的帖子.我觉得我说你挑起争端是轻的,应该是别有用心!</div><p></p><p>你喜欢用自己之心度别人之腹</p><p>懒得理你</p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 16:43
寫重了
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作者: woodylee 时间: 2006-5-20 16:43
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COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">社会就是要这样多元</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">才成</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">system</span></font><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;"><font face="宋体"> </font><p><font face="宋体"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="宋体"></font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="2"></font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="2"></font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="2"></font></p><p><font face="宋体"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">所以我才写下教管理经济学教授给我们的一句话</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">我思故我在</span><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: #252725; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">I think and therefore I am</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">”</span></font></font><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;"><font face="宋体"> </font><p><font face="宋体"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="宋体"></font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="2"></font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="2"></font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="2"></font></p><p><font face="宋体"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">其实这句话在每个人的解释的范围都不一样</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">我举一个例子</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">就拿中国人拿筷子</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">对照一德国与印度</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">(ps</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">没任何民族主义偏好</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">)</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">德国人能拿刀叉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">印度手抓饭好了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">.</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">有的人各自自吹</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">不外乎</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">中国人筷子夹豆吃</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">德国外科医生当饭吃</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">印度一把一口吃</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">这是最基层的想法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">有些人的思与在更大了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">为甚么自己技术之外的吃法就自己没办法那么顺手</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">, </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">刀叉切猪脚食鱼肉时</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">餐盘吱吱作响</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">就是无法左右手平衡控制想吃的肉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">筷子夹的怎总是夾比吃的多</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">手指斗斗斗都斗光了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">到底谁发明这巧度那么高的吃饭表演器具</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">印度人够简单的吧</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">直接就口肯定吃的饱</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">但看看印度人熟练的手指技术</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">抓饭涂咖哩干湿控制得宜</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">总是一团团的就口</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">不是太干的食之无味</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">或者是湿的黏的手咖哩</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">此人他们把自己置于以外的空间</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 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作者: francise 时间: 2006-5-20 17:25
<p>那是比喻吗?显然不是。就是要夸张也该有度。</p><p>有些是不值得分辨,明显有主观误导。但是能分辨真假的,已经可以搞的很清楚,写的是错的,有很多的错误,那还要去相信这样的文字吗?</p><p>我相信大家都是爱国的,但是不能因为爱国就总觉得别人在故意藐视吧,每个人都有自己说话的风格,只是片断语言,何必呢。也不必将语言推入一个极端</p>
作者: LJun 时间: 2006-5-20 21:33
<p>算了,也不是什么大事</p><p>派克学英雄吗,也许是真的也许是假的</p><p>希望“英雄”钢笔越来越好</p>
作者: lq996 时间: 2006-5-21 15:38
<p>楼主转帖的文章,最早是登在 参考消息 报纸上的,应该是多年前了,标题是中国成立以来损失最大的十件泄密,有兴趣的可以去图书馆翻一下。</p><p>派克偷学英雄到底什么情况不清楚</p><p>但二步发酵法制Vc确实是中国首创的,而且泄密后损失很大。</p><p>因为外国的生产工艺和二步法根本是两条路,那个技术员写的东西对行家来说确实就是一览无遗</p><p>以前高峰时价格到15万每吨,低谷时是3万不到每吨,</p><p>罗氏等公司拿到技术后想把中国Vc生产厂家挤跨,可惜人算不如天算,不过教训也够深了</p><p>请大家记住,84年时中国的专利法才制定出来,那时候专利对绝大多数人来说还是个新名词。</p><p>西方人老是指责中国不保护知识产权,可他们偷中国人的知识产权时到是不遗余力的</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-5-21 16:16:44编辑过]
作者: lq996 时间: 2006-5-21 16:11
<p>纠正francise的观点:这项技术是申请专利的,只要申请专利,就能被别人查看到,而专利是必须写清楚这项技术发明的细节的。</p><p>不过那是提交申请以后18个月之后的事了。</p>
作者: francise 时间: 2006-5-22 13:57
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用在2006-5-21 16:11:22的发言:</b><br/><p>纠正francise的观点:这项技术是申请专利的,只要申请专利,就能被别人查看到,而专利是必须写清楚这项技术发明的细节的。</p><p>不过那是提交申请以后18个月之后的事了。</p></div><p></p><p>我用词不准,是“申请专利并获得批准的,获得批准的公开专利可以被公众查阅”</p>
作者: 破破 时间: 2006-5-24 09:00
<p>10楼的这样说就不对了吧</p><p>中国人怎么可以说</p><p>中国这种破国家 呢</p>
作者: 不在家的LJun 时间: 2006-5-24 09:43
断章取意会要人命的
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