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标题: 149 14c [打印本页]
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-2-26 21:34
标题: 149 14c
<p>現也收149上幾張14c的149,該是70-80年的149,ebay拍到的是賭一個信用度12的賣家買的,當時很怕騙子,標的人很少,我還是高價標到,此筆出奇的新,還有ef與290標價的貼紙與盒單具全!撿到便宜了!今年還收幾支好筆改天有空分享!</p>[attach]25194[/attach]<br/>[attach]25195[/attach]<br/>[attach]25196[/attach]<br/>[attach]25197[/attach]<br/>[attach]25198[/attach]<br/>
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作者: long37 时间: 2007-2-26 21:43
价格不错啊。合下来比没涨价格的新款都便宜点啊。12点信用风险是够大的。
作者: Along_99 时间: 2007-2-26 21:44
恭喜又收到好笔,财主。
作者: benben 时间: 2007-2-26 22:49
<p>楼上的朋友是善意的玩笑吧, [em23]</p><p>woody转向古董笔了? 限量收烦了? 也是, 限量笔现在笔厂出得太多了, 很烦啊, 感觉拿钢笔收集者当猴耍啊.</p><p></p><p>其实收集量产笔比收限量笔累多了, 要收齐某个主题的量产笔也不是很容易的事情.</p>
作者: wweeoo 时间: 2007-2-26 23:00
<p>哦?付了多少钱啊?</p><p>这根笔的包装盒很特殊啊,还是第一次见到。</p><p>前几个小时还有两根比较老的149结束交易。也是成色很好的。</p>
作者: superqmh 时间: 2007-2-26 23:31
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>long37</i>在2007-2-26 21:43:11的发言:</b><br/>价格不错啊。合下来比没涨价格的新款都便宜点啊。12点信用风险是够大的。</div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3f3f3;">高风险,高回报</font>
作者: 万宝鹈鹕鸟 时间: 2007-2-26 23:59
woodylee兄让不让此笔?
作者: slash 时间: 2007-2-27 01:14
<p>恭禧lee兄,确实漂亮。</p><p>小弟刚收的149 O3B就要贵一些了。</p><p>呵呵,我和老兄各走一个极端啊,一个ef尖一个0bbb尖。</p>[em02][em02][em02]
作者: aimain 时间: 2007-2-27 01:27
不错,我该跳楼了,我的149是官价从东方新天地的店买的,5080啊,一套送一瓶墨水,那时候没找到组织啊!
作者: duofoldest 时间: 2007-2-27 01:57
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">恭喜无敌李</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">迷途知返</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">其实</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">MB</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">一堆限量笔</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">真的很好看</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">我也收了几只</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">但论书写能力实在不如</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">50-70</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">年代</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">149</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">这只是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">EF</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">尖</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">所以抢的人较少</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">………</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">大笔不宜用细尖</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">还好这只</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">弹性</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">还不错</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">可算</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">半弹</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">可表现</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">EF-B</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">的粗细</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">所以又另当别论</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-2-27 05:27
<p>大家別問我標的價,含運是300出頭拿到的,...</p><p>一般二手舊的是USD250左右,MINT的要400以上</p><p>MB4810與文豪限量筆收的差不多了喜歡都收到,奧古斯都也盼到了,我看收MB限量筆這也差不多該收手!</p><p>今年除此14C 149大概就收NAMIKI初秋,50號URUSHI,蜘蛛王奧古斯都這幾支筆...不復苛求!改天報告給大家!</p><p>HAAAA...筆櫃都滿了也容不下買筆囉![em01]</p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-2-27 05:30
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>万宝鹈鹕鸟</i>在2007-2-26 23:59:36的发言:</b><br/>woodylee兄让不让此笔?</div><p></p>萬兄別開我玩笑您筆那麼多,大夥還等要您的地利之便的筆!且我也是吝嗇之人呀,只進不出[em05]
作者: sky_r6 时间: 2007-2-27 08:42
<p>好笔险中求啊!</p>
作者: 图展5182 时间: 2007-2-27 17:45
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>sky_r6</i>在2007-2-27 8:42:59的发言:</b><br/><p>好笔险中求啊!</p></div><p></p>老宋这话说得好,恭喜木兄了,哈哈。[em10]
作者: Along_99 时间: 2007-2-27 21:18
当然是善意的玩笑了,老万都想收,可见此笔还是很稀有的。
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-2-27 22:06
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>Along_99</i>在2007-2-27 21:18:31的发言:</b><br/>当然是善意的玩笑了,老万都想收,可见此笔还是很稀有的。</div><p></p><p>這筆還好找啦不算稀有...我猜老萬是看上盒子吧!</p><p>最近很忙這幾支筆都沒時間寫,這149也沒空試14c的威力,先看圖吧!</p><p>[attach]25238[/attach]<br/></p>
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作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-2-27 22:19
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>slash</i>在2007-2-27 1:14:28的发言:</b><br/><p>恭禧lee兄,确实漂亮。</p><p>小弟刚收的149 O3B就要贵一些了。</p><p>呵呵,我和老兄各走一个极端啊,一个ef尖一个0bbb尖。</p>[em02][em02][em02]</div><p></p>slash兄可否來張90年的149的銥點,我有支2006年的一樣18k是否銥點大了點,我覺得90年的海明威與這70-80的149,該是同尺寸的筆尖size,但銥點設計有點不同!以前的有微上翹,現版則銥點大!
作者: slash 时间: 2007-2-28 02:29
<p>没问题! </p><p>小弟的相机连线现在行踪不明中,发现了立刻上「报」。</p><p></p>
作者: slash 时间: 2007-2-28 02:45
<p>对了。好像万兄以前有帖过149发展的细节变化。很想再学习一下,可一下子又找不到那个帖子了。。。</p>
作者: slash 时间: 2007-3-1 00:31
<p>又有个问题想请教万兄,Lee兄等各位高人。</p><p>149的笔芯从什么时候改成现行版的塑料?</p><p>还有,有的笔尖的金色部分有紫铜色的变色现象。是笔芯的硬橡胶烧焦造成的么?是不是影响出水?</p><p>谢谢。</p>
作者: Gene 时间: 2007-3-1 06:18
<p>你是说老万“龙卷风”?在钢笔知识区里就有。</p><p>李兄,我80,90,70,69年的149都有,80,90都给买了,70的14K听软的,手感还是不错的。 正在找50年的。。 </p><p>收到支52年的146,改天有空就放上来。</p>[em05]
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-3-1 06:50
<p>s兄該指活塞軸吧?50年第一版與80年後是金屬,其間是塑料的...</p><p>g兄雙銀環我見過,我朋友那有但有點損壞....</p>光筆尖14c,14k,18c,18k雙帶與三帶色收齊就不簡單了[em02]
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作者: slash 时间: 2007-3-1 21:26
<p>噢,我说的是笔芯。查过资料了,应该是从80年代中期以后开始改的。</p><p>和笔夹的造型一起改的。</p>
作者: slash 时间: 2007-3-1 21:31
<p>Gene兄卖掉80,90年代的149很好理解。</p><p>和过去的14c时代的笔相比,笔尖的感觉完全就不是那么一回事。</p><p>我的90年(八○年代中期开始的18k双色笔尖W-Germany)版03B伊点做的好薄啊。</p><p>这个做法现在的PelikanBB,3B,OBB,O3B也是这样,所以我一直想找老一些的PF 800笔尖。看过比较的图片,PF的笔尖就很有特色,做的很厚。找个3B试一下,估计和149的O3B感觉会很不一样。</p><p></p>
作者: duofoldest 时间: 2007-3-1 22:14
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">></font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">有的笔尖的金色部分有紫铜色的变色现象。是笔芯的硬橡胶烧焦造成的么</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">?</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"></span></font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">这是大大有名的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">ebonite</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">霞</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">”,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">据说是</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">硬橡胶</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">+</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">墨水</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">+</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">笔尖金属的某些成分</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">产生化学反应造成的</span></p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我不是化学家</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">,</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">无法判断此</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">传说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">之真假</span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">></font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">是不是影响出水</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">如果发生在表面外面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">不会</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">如果发生在内面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">与</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">ink</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">接触之面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">或</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">slit</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">两边</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">当然</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">略微</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">有影响</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"><p></p></span></p><p></p></span><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"></span></p>
作者: long37 时间: 2007-3-1 22:16
<p>是金属表面氧化,不是高纯度的黄金都或多或少会有个问题的。擦银布一擦就干净了。</p>
作者: slash 时间: 2007-3-1 22:33
<p>如龙版所言,确实很容易清理掉。</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">>如果发生在内面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">与</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">ink</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">接触之面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">或</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">slit</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">两边</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">当然</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">略微</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-font-family: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: simsun; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">有影响</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black;"></span></p><p>完全正确。和刚查的资料一样的说法!</p>[em01]
作者: duofoldest 时间: 2007-3-1 22:42
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">奇怪</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">你既然每个答案都查的到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">何必问</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">是故意要考无敌李吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">?</span>[em01][em01][em01]</p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-3-1 23:13
<p>让给我把?</p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-3-1 23:16
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>long37</i>在2007-3-1 22:16:23的发言:</b><br/><p>是金属表面氧化,不是高纯度的黄金都或多或少会有个问题的。擦银布一擦就干净了。</p></div><p>不要擦,要的就是这个感觉。金子出包浆不容易啊。</p>
作者: long37 时间: 2007-3-1 23:36
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2007-3-1 23:16:04的发言:</b><br/><p>不要擦,要的就是这个感觉。金子出包浆不容易啊。</p></div><p>不搽很难看的。不均匀的,一块一块想象起麻子。</p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-3-1 23:40
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>long37</i>在2007-3-1 23:36:59的发言:</b><br/><p>不搽很难看的。不均匀的,一块一块想象起麻子。</p></div><p>要的就是这感觉。不然为什么我绝不买现在的MB,那笔尖也太耀眼了,恶心死了</p>
作者: slash 时间: 2007-3-1 23:43
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>duofoldest</i>在2007-3-1 22:42:49的发言:</b><br/><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">奇怪</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">你既然每个答案都查的到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">何必问</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma;">是故意要考无敌李吗</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">?</span>[em01][em01][em01]</p></div><p></p><p>当然不是。</p><p>提了问题也应该积极主动的自己寻找答案不是吗?我也拼命地在翻,在看啊。</p><p>我是新人,兄要有点耐心啊。</p>[em07][em07][em07]
作者: long37 时间: 2007-3-2 00:47
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2007-3-1 23:40:49的发言:</b><br/><p>要的就是这感觉。不然为什么我绝不买现在的MB,那笔尖也太耀眼了,恶心死了</p></div><p>简单,硫磺一搽你要多没光就多没光,还可以按你要求做造型。</p>
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-3-2 09:47
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>long37</i>在2007-3-2 0:47:29的发言:</b><br/><p>简单,硫磺一搽你要多没光就多没光,还可以按你要求做造型。</p></div><p>假包浆就不值钱了。</p>
作者: 带翅膀的鱼 时间: 2007-3-2 20:35
<p>这么便宜就淘到宝贝,真是恭喜啊!</p>
作者: 万宝鹈鹕鸟 时间: 2007-3-2 21:10
这笔的笔尖一定很好,我求此笔不是自己要,而是想买来送人。
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-3-2 22:02
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>万宝鹈鹕鸟</i>在2007-3-2 21:10:12的发言:</b><br/>这笔的笔尖一定很好,我求此笔不是自己要,而是想买来送人。</div><p></p>我也捨不得放呀...少見mint的舊149
作者: cg1919 时间: 2007-3-4 11:18
标题: 问一下该笔的价格
我从贴子上没看出149的价格,请楼主告知一下,我有一枝149_14c,笔尖同楼主照片一样,笔夹环上有w.-GERMANY。
作者: Gene 时间: 2007-3-4 12:35
<p>你那不一样,他是70年代的,你的是80年代的。 </p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-3-4 15:08
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>cg1919</i>在2007-3-4 11:18:58的发言:</b><br/>我从贴子上没看出149的价格,请楼主告知一下,我有一枝149_14c,笔尖同楼主照片一样,笔夹环上有w.-GERMANY。</div><p></p><p><a href="http://www.penbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=1358&replyID=&skin=1">http://www.penbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=1358&replyID=&skin=1</a></p><p>還是上個圖給大家判斷一下....可省一本"趣味的文具箱"的MONEY</p><p></p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-3-4 15:12:02编辑过]
作者: 韦伯猫 时间: 2007-3-6 10:31
老兄,让瓦,我总算看上眼一支Montblanc啦。
作者: superqmh 时间: 2007-3-6 10:46
<p>冲动是魔鬼啊。不冲动是木头</p>
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-3-6 12:47
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>superqmh</i>在2007-3-6 10:46:12的发言:</b><br/><p>冲动是魔鬼啊。不冲动是木头</p></div><p></p>我是木頭woody[em05]
作者: woodylee 时间: 2007-3-6 14:12
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>韦伯猫</i>在2007-3-6 10:31:41的发言:</b><br/>老兄,让瓦,我总算看上眼一支Montblanc啦。</div><p>"2007年woodylee收藏之路"有po看看就好哩</p>[em01]
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