GLAMG 发表于 2016-12-13 00:41

支持!
毕竟是以讨论如何折腾工具为住,
而不是讨论使用工具干活。

韦伯猫 发表于 2016-12-13 01:04

GLAMG 发表于 2016-12-13 00:41
支持!
毕竟是以讨论如何折腾工具为住,
而不是讨论使用工具干活。

讨论使用工具干活也没啥问题。但是书法这种东西和工具又没什么关系。况且,和钢笔更加没什么关系。

Reus11 发表于 2016-12-13 01:04

支持:victory:

GLAMG 发表于 2016-12-13 01:21

韦伯猫 发表于 2016-12-13 01:04
讨论使用工具干活也没啥问题。但是书法这种东西和工具又没什么关系。况且,和钢笔更加没什么关系。

我想的是
钢笔∈书写工具
写字≈用工具干活 刚才也没表达清楚
其它方面如在攒机选购板块谈如何用电脑、在汽车购买帖子谈驾驶经验、在镜头选购板块谈后期制作等也是不妥,要选合适的地方。

韦伯猫 发表于 2016-12-13 02:25

GLAMG 发表于 2016-12-13 01:21
我想的是
钢笔∈书写工具
写字≈用工具干活 刚才也没表达清楚


大家都这么思路清爽我就不用管理了哈哈

Nicpop 发表于 2016-12-13 03:04

这是坠吼的!我们怎么可能不兹辞一下呢?

大梦 发表于 2016-12-13 08:17

猫好凶:lol

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 09:27

钢笔和字迹虽然没有直接关系,但也很难分开,所以强行严打一定是无法杜绝的。
为什么不开个专区,专门用来讨论字迹,各取所需不是更好?
字迹讨论区的建立也会对简单问题区、开箱区、交易区、墨水区等等板块产生积极的影响,由此,本坛人气也会随之上升,请管理员考虑下。

版规中有没有规定涉嫌稀有动物及其制品等文具应禁止炫耀的规定,前段时间出现的“X牙笔撂”我认为就该禁止。禁止捕杀和交易国家级保护动物属于法律规定的内容,论坛为公开交流环境,应该有所避讳。

War3_Master 发表于 2016-12-13 09:32

写个字迹看看粗细可以吗?

haliluya_2007 发表于 2016-12-13 09:45

本论坛只讨论钢笔的结构、材料、长度、横截面积、温度的影响。(好像扯到电阻率公式去了)

苦瓜不苦 发表于 2016-12-13 09:50

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 09:27
钢笔和字迹虽然没有直接关系,但也很难分开,所以强行严打一定是无法杜绝的。
为什么不开个专区,专门用来 ...

有专区的
http://www.penbbs.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=17

九命雨猫 发表于 2016-12-13 10:15

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 10:50

苦瓜不苦 发表于 2016-12-13 09:50
有专区的
http://www.penbbs.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=17

既然如此,何必封号。引导一下即可。

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 10:57

九命雨猫 发表于 2016-12-13 10:15
显然是坛子区块都没看清

一直没见有人讨论字迹,真不知道还有这个区。管理员和坛内友人如果能多多引导何愁屡禁不止。

PS:说话只说一半者,等于白说。在此感谢上层朋友的链接。

如果本坛不欢迎新人,直接关闭注册功能即可,无暇对付新人这招最有用。

蝼蚁。 发表于 2016-12-13 11:14

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 10:50
既然如此,何必封号。引导一下即可。

一个个都去引导?练字板块不是很清楚摆着么,又不是藏着。

王兆骞 发表于 2016-12-13 11:17

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 09:27
钢笔和字迹虽然没有直接关系,但也很难分开,所以强行严打一定是无法杜绝的。
为什么不开个专区,专门用来 ...

以下引用貓版:(版主都說這麼清楚了,還要故作姿態說什麼「不可強行分離,讓人不禁懷疑……)

至于钢笔论坛所讨论的钢笔,我们一般认为这都属于书写钢笔的范畴。虽然钢笔论坛从创立开始并没有规定只讨论书写钢笔,但是实际上,逐渐就养成了这样的惯例就是这里只讨论书写钢笔,不讨论书法钢笔等等各种特种钢笔。

当然,这也并不是没有原因的。

我们所讨论的书写钢笔,也就是后来逐渐进化发展成为圆珠笔、走珠笔、中性笔、中油笔这一类的快速书写工具的东西,设计的目的就是快速的书写。

而书法钢笔么,则是属于众多特种钢笔的一个小分支,在中国的习惯往往被称作“美工笔”。至于更加特种的钢笔,则基本上保留了比钢笔更早的形态,那就是蘸水笔。保留蘸水笔的形态当然是有显而易见的原因那就是可以采用各种稀奇古怪的专用配方的墨水,哪怕是金粉墨水之类的特殊墨水(甚至于这都不能称作墨水,只是一种混合物了,悬浊液都称不上)。这些笔的功能性设计要求远远超过了外观设计的要求,以至于功能性远超过值得讨论的美学性,而成为了单纯的工具。

至于工具类的特种钢笔为什么不被讨论么,我总结下来无非就是:如果你需要这种笔,那么你至少知道需要什么样的这种笔。

而,如果你知道你需要什么样的这种笔,你就会觉得这又没什么可讨论的,买来用就是了。

于是么,特种钢笔也就变得没啥好讨论的东西了。

至于那些热衷于讨论这种专用工具和那种专用工具之间的区别的人么,我只能认为,你们根本还没学会使用这些专用工具。等你们学会怎么使用了,自然就知道这中间的区别。所以,其实还是没什么可讨论的。

liubin_hlj 发表于 2016-12-13 11:17

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这么明显的。

坦逸凌水 发表于 2016-12-13 11:36

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Allepanzer 发表于 2016-12-13 12:05

这么说来,秀字的是属于诱杀行为。

Allepanzer 发表于 2016-12-13 12:06

marklv 发表于 2016-12-13 09:27
钢笔和字迹虽然没有直接关系,但也很难分开,所以强行严打一定是无法杜绝的。
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